Interesting Java Proposal

In the java community there has been a long and heated debate about adding delegates to the language. There is a white paper on Suns website explaining there position on the debate. Which is in response to Microsoft’s implementation of them in J++ which in tern could be deemed as the turning point for Microsoft to then create the entire .NET architecture. Although it doesn’t have a date on it using the way back machine we can see that the paper has been around at least since the beginning of 1999.

I hadn’t read the paper until just last week and I agree with what it’s saying functors/delegates are a quite strange structure in c/c++/.NET and can be difficult to explain. On a side not I have also read that Java is a much more strongly OO architecture than .NET, which is more an easy wrapper over windows as always (grr I can’t stand MFC) anyway… I was looking at some new features for c# 3.0 and in particular extension methods which I am of the opinion are really syntactic sugar for the lazy VB programmers out there, ducks for cover.

But in my search I also found a new paper that is proposed for Java written by three prominent figures including James Gosling, the farther of Java, Closures for Java, there is a pdf but this is a verbatim copy on Neal Gafter’s blog.

Neal has 4 other posts about them and I recommend reading them all if your head can get around them, it took me 2 goes at it. I can see how these constructs could be very useful in getting rid of boiler plate code from a lot of Java programming, which is always a good thing, but I can also see it becoming a problem as well when used too much. Since it is a way of almost changing the language itself you could quickly start having the same headaches you get for heavily preprocessed c/c++ code.

I am still not sure as to whether they would be a good thing for the language if introduced it will be something that will probably not make it into begging programming courses. One of the things I have always liked about Java is that once you understand the OO principles of the language which can be picked up in a short amount of time virtually all api’s and constructs can be created by the programmer. If not very well designed used but use none the less.

I’ll keep tracking Neal’s blog for more insights into uses before I am really sure but it is none the less a very radical and interesting proposal none the less.


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